…Let’s investigate the source of people’s money
…Joining APC late not a disadvantage
…IPOB sit-at-home is senseless
Ebonyi State Governor and All Progressives Congress, APC, presidential aspirant, Dave Umahi in this interview made a case for his candidacy, saying the job of fixing Nigeria requires both mental and physical capacity, a verifiable track record of achievement, emotional intelligence and a strong political will, which, he says, are his forte.
In a couple of days, your administration will come to an end and many projects are still ongoing, including the international Airport. What is the state of things on those projects?
Everything that is of God, overcomes. God is not the agent of unfinished product and if you know that I came on Divine Mandate, then you will know that all will be completed and anchored properly. The Edda flyover, I am sure you have gone to that project, it is one of the wonders of this administration and, of course, our nation and I believe that in the next two months, that job will be completed.
The Amasiri flyover is also going to be done in the next two months. The Airport, by the end of August, we should be expecting the first flight in that Airport. The King David University, by the end of July, the free medical treatment which we are offering to the entire nation for the next two months will be on. We have offered scholarships for the 36 states and FCT in our first admission, six per state, for one year free of charge.
So, we have many students all over the country. We are doing the same thing for the second year of admission. And we also have free medical lab examinations. So, you can do your total medical evaluation in that King David University from the first day of June and it is going to run for three months. And so, the job that may be remaining, would be the Olympic Stadium, because it has to be the best in this country.
But we would have done that job up to 70 per cent completion. So, the incoming administration (of course, I’m going to hand over in that stadium next year by God’s special grace) would complete the rest. And just the axillary works should be what is remaining, which should be about 30 per cent and, of course, there will be a contract. What else would be remaining would be a portion of Abakaliki-Enugu dualization. There will be about 15km that will be left. I am dualizing the boundary to Nkalagu, I am dualizing from Abakaliki to Ezzamgbo – 135km…
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So, there will be some portion that will be left in between, about 15km. I will award it and mobilize it before I leave. There will also be a portion of Abakaliki to Afikpo. This is about 100kms of road and before I leave, about 40kms will be left which will be basically from Abaomege down to Afikpo and I will also award it and commit a mobilization there. The Ala Hausa flyover that is moving day and night will be completed. The Nkalagu flyover is done, it’s just the axillary works left. So, I know ongoing local government jobs but the jobs are given to the local government chairmen and they will fund them from our finances.
PRESIDENTIAL AMBITION
You are among those vying for president on the platform of the APC, but there are speculations that you are considering backing out of the contest because of the calibre of aspirants in the APC, including some founding fathers of the party. How true is that? And what makes you stand out among these aspirants?
Our country has moved to a very unfortunate stage where we now believe that money answereth all things. I know of somebody who used to say that what money cannot do, more money can do. And so, you have mentioned a couple of things, the founding fathers of the APC. There must also be the founding sons of the APC because life is a relay race, you cannot continue to be on stage throughout life.
You have also said that people that contributed, my brother we are talking about our nation, the state of our nation now. And we are talking about who can do this job, we are not talking about how much money you have because when you say how much money you have, from which company did you make such money? And so, we are in a critical stage of our nation and we should be very much interested in talking about those who can do the job and I thought that the Nigerian nation should be able to see and x-ray the leaders, past and present, and let us talk about the essentials.
Let’s talk about Nigerian intellectual capacities to do the job, the capacities, the strength, the calling to do the job. And somebody asks me: what stands me out? What stands me out is the calling of God, and what we have been able to achieve through the grace of God here because everything we need at a macro level in our nation-building and the challenges, they have been sorted out in this state. Is it the ‘securityship’? Here in Ebonyi state, it has been from bottom to top approach, not minding the political inclination in our security programmes where everything is about politics; if it doesn’t go my way, it is destroyed.
Otherwise, I can tell you that Ebonyi State is the most peaceful state by the way we have handled security in this state. We have the vigilante, we have the community self-defence mechanism. At the state level, we have the Ebubeagu outfit and these people are doing very well. And we have made sure in our laws that they are subject to the police authorities and it is very important. As we have fought this security to a winning point in Ebonyi, I will be encouraging community policing, I will be encouraging state policing, I will be encouraging a reformed security architecture of our country. And I have said that, look, the insecurity we have in Southeast is different from what we have in Northeast, what we have in Northwest. So, you have to engage, you have to study the kind of insecurity, what brought about insecurity. Of course, corruption is one of them. Neglect of the young people at a time they’re supposed to be catered for is one of them. There is also political inclination – let’s destroy it if it cannot come our way.
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I CAN DO THE JOB. I HAVE WHAT IT TAKES
There is hunger and anger in the land and so, we are looking for somebody who can do the job and I think I can do the job. If it is to share money, I can’t share money. I have fear for God and I love for the people. I have the strength, I have the health, I have the energy, I have the wisdom, I have the training, I am a professional Engineer and I create wealth. In Ebonyi State, 95 per cent of the jobs are done through direct labour, through the ministries.
There must be a leader that is above board to lead this country, there must be a leader that has the fear of God. The bible says that by the fear of God, men depart from evil. It is not about EFCC and ICPC. There is more that is more than these two, and that is God. Because when you take from the poor, you are doing the opposite of what the word of God says. It says that he that giveth to the poor, lendeth unto God.
So, I stand out by my training, by my fear of God and by my antecedents. I am an engineer by profession and engineers have not been given the opportunity to lead this country. We have infrastructure decay in this country. My position is that they should allow the engineers. I look at them as many creators to build the nation, then we will hand over to the politicians. I liken them to making the food. When the food is done, then we allow the politicians to come and take over. But right now, we need a professional to rebuild this country.
Talking about experience, I have been a party chairman for four years, I have been a deputy governor for four years under a very experienced man. And when I leave next year, I’d have been governor for eight years. I have the courage. I have experience. I have the performance. And if you check all my indices of performance vis-a-vis the rating of the world bank, the rating of the vice president of the country, the rating of the Bureau of Statistics, and the rating of the Ministry of Finance, you will see I came first, first, first.
But on the overall rating, you will see I came second and I don’t know why I came second, because I should come first. But I have to accept. So, I stand out to do this job. But if you are considering the volume of money, I shouldn’t even contest in the first place, because I don’t have the kind of money many of them have. I have done the job in Ebonyi. I have not stolen money. I have not saved money, but I have a name and I have legacies. In all honesty, I continue to pray that God will not bring a politician to this job. Promises have been made in the past and they failed. We are not going to rely on promises. In fact, I hate to hear promises.
I want to see what you have done in your previous outings, what have you done? And that is what Nigerians should be asking now and not when you collect money from people, you will begin to talk. There must be a nation for us to be what we are and I feel so sad when elders will not be very objective when our nation is sinking. It looks like money answereth all things. It pains me so much, but we have to grow above that,
because if this nation sinks, God forbid that, we will all sink.
EQUITY AND JUSTICE DEMAND THAT SOUTHEAST PRODUCE NEXT PRESIDENT
There has been a clamour for zoning in this country as regards the presidency. What is your take on this?
The entire South and Middle-Belt came together and said look o, for the sake of equity, justice and fair play, let the next President come from the South and it caught fire. And even a lot of our brothers and sisters from the North also bought it. I have more robust campaign outings in the North than even in the South, the young ones, the politicians. And so, everybody had in mind that when talking about the 2023 presidency, the Southeast that never had an elected president among our two brothers of Southsouth and Southwest will be given a chance.
And Southern governors came together and said the same thing. But when I suspected foul play in PDP, I said no o, and made sure that the PDP will keep to this issue of fair play. How is it that we have been supporting and we have never been given chance to be supported? And I cried to the world and to Nigerians. Incidentally, my own brothers from Ebonyi and the entire Southeast attacked me. But today, they have not apologized and they need to apologize.
Today, they are at crossroads and they don’t know what to tell our people, that we are not even being considered for anything in PDP. And so, I came over to APC. I have peace in APC. I have respect in APC. There is no headmaster. Even the president has respect for the party and says; look, the governors are in charge of their respective states. But not so from where I was coming from. You see your colleague trying to lord it over you in your own state. But that is not the same in the APC. So, I am happy that we are being equally treated with respect.
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So, if the mind of the South is that when this thing comes that we should continue to vote for our brothers and no opportunity to be voted for, I said no o. Then, we have blackmailed the North. It means that it was no longer on the platform of equity and justice. So, it’s blackmail and if that is blackmail, the Southeast should pull out of the blackmail and then say, look, if you are not basing this thing on equity and justice, then everybody can contest. And so, the South will no longer cry of marginalization because marginalization cannot just stop between the North and South. When it comes to the South, it has to also tickle down to the three regions with different cultural backgrounds.
That’s the position and I think this opinion should be enhanced because justice is justice, fairness is fairness, equity is equity and I have seen that the body language of Mr President is that this thing should come to the South, but if it is thrown to the South and justice and fairness and equity is being denied, then, if I am the one giving it, I have to reconsider my position. And that is the truth. So, our brothers and sisters in Southsouth and Southwest should please think about tomorrow, think about if destiny is denied the Southeast, will there be any kind of unity again as people with a common voice for the so-called justice, equity and fairness.
There are a lot of implications in not evaluating this situation properly. It will not make for the cohesion of the South and I want to be heard, not because I am contesting and I need to contest. The Southeast must have something in their hand and that’s why I am not bothered about the number of aspirants from Southeast. But, unfortunately, they are lower than that of Southsouth and Southeast. Then, where is the justice, equity and fairness that have been turned upside down? So, I want many Nigerians to speak for Southeast and then when it comes to who can do the job in Southeast, you should be very objective and have the fear of God. Don’t be afraid to say it’s Umahi because Umahi can do the job.
IT’S UNFAIR TO ASK SOUTHEAST FOR A CONSENSUS CANDIDATE
We have so many of you aspiring for the presidency in Southeast, do you think of having a consensus among you?
There is no need for consensus. When they say that Igbo should come together, I continue to say there is nothing like that. The Igbo are not making president for the Igbo alone and many of us are there and we are not the ones to choose who should be the president of Nigeria, it is Nigerians that should choose who should be their president. So, we have quite a good pool of aspirants from Southeast and they should choose.
If they are looking for somebody who can develop infrastructure, somebody who is committed, has the fear of God and has very wonderful ratings in terms of transparency in governance, then they will see somebody from Ebonyi. And they are other aspirants that have other qualities, including some of my own qualities. Nigerians are there to make the choice. What kind of president do we want at this challenging moment? That should be the question on the lips of Nigerians.
SIT-AT-HOME IS NONSENSICAL, WORSENING THE SECURITY CHALLENGE IN SOUTHEAST
What is your influence on other Southeast governors to ensure adequate security in the region, how are you networking to ensure there is peace in Southeast?
This one is dangerous. You want to hide under security to discuss the development and I can tell you that all the governors of Southeast are doing extremely very well in terms of development and that we all have our problems, we all have our priorities and so, we never had the infrastructure, security and then enhancing the confidence of my people, wealth creation are key for me. Different kinds of challenges may be in Enugu, in Abia, Anambra and Imo. So, we have different callings and different challenges.
But when it comes to security, I must tell you, and in all honesty, that there is politics in our security situation. There is extreme politics in this region and it must stop for the sake of our people. When we started, we were all working together, and I was championing the fact – and I still championing it, with no fear or apologies, that IPOB is not good for us. That the kind of agitation being meted out was not correct.
That hate speech is not good. And then, from there, it developed to violence and then, we continue to indict our people and say o, we have been infiltrated. Na lie! It is Southeast killing Southeast and security people. And until we can be bold to say this, it will continue. And what is trending now is, why is it that we do sit-at-home? It’s not only the Igbo that are in Southeast and you do sit-at-home and it is not the businesses of Igbo and businesses of other people from other regions. Then, you now go to other regions, you are doing your own businesses freely and nobody is disturbing you. And that is what people are sending to me, as the Chairman of Southeast Governors forum.
So, I use this opportunity to tell Igbo to be wise, this sit at home is useless and it is nonsense. This agitation is nonsense for me because even if it was to be Biafra, Ebonyi will not belong to Biafra. I have been saying it and I will continue to say it and I have no apologies because we have been used as house boys and house girls and by the creation of Ebonyi State, we are having self-determination and somebody is now telling me about Biafra? We have to get to the status of our brothers and sisters in the Southeast. Before, we had no confidence in ourselves.
Now, we are changing the narrative and somebody has been your house boy and house girl and the person wants to aspire, you will definitely not be happy. So, we are not for Biafra, we are for a united and equitable just Nigeria. And so, I will continue to preach that there is no gain in sit at home, there is no gain in our killing ourselves and I am happy that the altercation with other people from other regions is a thing of the past. We are living peacefully with our brothers and sisters from other regions and it is quite encouraging. But sit-at-home, I support not.
Not at all! And I call on our people to come out in sincerity and fear of God, let us work together to do something about our region and liberate our people. So, the moment extreme politics dies off in the Southeast. And then brainwashing too. Then, we can begin to aspire as we should. Killings and violence have not been part of our cultural values and I don’t know where it came from. So, that’s my position.
Why is it difficult for the five governors of Southeast to work together and function very effectively on security issues, especially on Ebubeagu which was established to strengthen security in the zone?
The issue of Ebubeagu, you see, every state is autonomous and I won’t be able to comment on it because Southeast leaders came together and said look, by December last year, every state should have Ebubeagu inaugurated and I know that some states have had their own laws. We first made and signed our laws and it is working and it is helping us and that is the way to go and I can’t speak for other states because maybe, they have a better way of solving their security problems but this is my own little way of solving it and it is working for me.
EQUITY AND JUSTICE DEMAND THAT SOUTHEAST PRODUCE NEXT PRESIDENT
What is the relationship between Ohanaeze and Southeast governors because the two are supposed to work together on this issue of security and all that?
There is also extreme politics in Ohanaeze. Ohanaeze started very well and I went to Owerri when they were elected. There is politics in Ohanaeze now and they have to honestly discharge themselves because they will still reckon with the moment like this when they should stand apolitical, fighting for the good of our people. I went to table the issue of a political solution for Nnamdi Kanu before Mr President but even at that, it is an insult to the Nigerian nation if we are doing sit at home and we are talking about a political solution.
So, this nonsense sit at home must give way for the President and the Federal Government to begin to consider and say look, these people are sincere but not when there are still more killings. Sit-at-home disrupts business activities, endangers the people, creates fears and then killings and then we are talking about a political solution. I am not for that. So, I have told the gladiators to stop the sit-at-home so that we have the face and courage and conscience to approach the Federal Government. To ensure that there is no politics in it, I have pleaded with Professor Obiozor to lead this peaceful olive branch created. So, I think we should, in strong voice, ask this people to denounce this illegitimate sit-at-home.